Dating is a science too
Mckee, "The chief significance of ripple lamination in the geologic record is that it is an indicator of environments involving large and rapid sand accumulation...areas where addition of new sand normally is at a slow rate, have little chance of developing into superimposed ripple lamination... of Geology, Harvard, "it is reasonable to postulate a very rapid rate of deposition; that is a single lamina would probably be deposited in a period of seconds or minutes rather than in a period of hours. Frankfurt, "This proves instantaneous deposition of the individual beds, as postulated by the turbidity-current theory. For more than 65 million years the remains of the vegetarian duck-billed dinosaurs and other creatures lay buried in the now-frozen tundra, which was once a coastal swamp with a subtropical-to-temperate climate.'...their structure was porous and the fossils were not remineralized.' Therefore, in their deep freeze, the Alaskan bones may well have preserved some of their DNA." Omni, 1/90, p.32 DINOSAUR blood cells, SOFT TISSUE "Round and tiny and nucleated, they were threaded through the bone like red blood cells in blood vessels. It was exactly like looking at a slice of modern bone. Hill Dean of College of Mines & Mineral Industries, "A rather startling and serendipitous discovery resulted....
In contrast, areas in which sand accumulates periodically but rapidly, as in river flood plains were sand laden waters of strong floods suddenly lose velocity are very favorable for building up ripple-laminated deposits." Society of Economic Paleontologists and Mineralogists, p.107. ...there is factual evidence from both field observation and experiment that laminae composed of bed material are commonly deposited by current action within a period of seconds or minutes." V.36, No. ..not accumulate gradually but were cast instantaneously by turbidity currents each bed in its entire thickness, in a matter of hours or less." Journal of Geology, V.70, p. But blood cells in a dinosaur bone should have disappeared eons ago. These observations suggest that in their formation, high rank coals,...probably subjected to high temperature at some stage in their history.
Isotopic ages have been obtained for material from five landing sites on the moon--those of Apollos 11, 12, 14, 15 and Luna 16; each site has a different age. Ideally, any one basaltic rock from a given site should yield the same isotopic age, regardless of the method used." Science News, V.101, p.12 CONSTANT RATES? Jueneman, FAIC, "There has been in recent years the horrible realization that radiodecay rates are not as constant as previously thought, nor are they immune to environmental influences. Each assumption is a potential variable, the magnitude of which can seldom be ascertained.
And this could mean that the atomic clocks are reset during some global disaster, and events which brought the Mesozoic to a close may not be 65 million years ago but, rather, within the age and memory of man." Ind. of Geophysics, "The radiogenic argon and helium contents of three basalts erupted into the deep ocean from an active volcano (Kilauea) have been measured. In cases where the daughter product is a gas, as in the decay of potassium (K40) to the gas argon (Ar 40) it is essential that none of the gas escapes from the rock over long periods of time...
However this web site ( convinced me that they could be useful as a reference tool, especially for those who attend the lectures, and I agreed.
I commented at the time that some of the quotes would not make sense without the lecture.
I use most of these quotes as handouts to provide documentation for my lecture series.
They were not intended to stand alone as arguments by themselves.
Engels, "It is now well known that K-Ar ages obtained from different minerals in a single rock may be strikingly discordant." Journal of Geology, Vol.79, p.609. Lee, "The Imperfect Art Of Estimating Geological Time" "The troubles of the radiocarbon dating method are undeniably deep and serious. Suess, UCLA, "Symposium Organized By International Atomic Energy Authority, ...presented the latest determinations..adduced from the current activity of dendrochronologically dated growth rings of the Californian bristle cone pine. The Science Of Evolution, 1977, p.84 GEOLOGICAL PHENOMENON... "The remains accumulate at varying rates, but a rate of one centimeter per thousand years is typical." The Great Dinosaur Extinction Controversy, Charles Officer and Jake Page, 1996, p.56 Fossils: Large, Detailed, Ephemeral, Polystrate RAPID, Dunbar & Rogers, "Use of the lead-uranium ratio, however, soon demonstrated its age to be more than two thousand million years...In the Coal Measures of Nova Scotia, for example, the stumps and trunks of many trees are preserved standing upright as they grew, clearly having been buried before they had time to fall or rot away.Here sediment certainly accumulated to a depth of many feet within a few years.Research & Development, p.21, 6/1982 DISSENTERS EJECTED, R. Mauger, East Carolina Univ., "In general, dates in the 'correct ball park' are assumed to be correct and are published, but those in disagreement with other data are seldom published nor or the discrepancies fully explained.", Contributions To Geology, Vol.15 (1): 17. of Washington, "If the laboratory results contradict the field evidence, the geologist assumes that there is something wrong with the machine date. Ages calculated from these measurements increase with sample depth up to 22 million years for lavas deduced to be recent. It is obvious that radiometric technique may not be the absolute dating methods that they are claimed to be.
To put it another way, 'good' dates are those that agree with the field data. ...these lavas are very young, probably less than 200 years old. Age estimates on a given geological stratum by different radiometric methods are often quite different (sometimes by hundreds of millions of years).
It is easy to defeat the purpose of effective communication by too much detail in the graphic.